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Title: Hatred/Harassment/Flaming
Description: How Much Can You Really Dislike Someone?


Sweet Clementine - February 22, 2008 06:41 PM (GMT)
We're all human beings, and we've all had people in our lives that we disliked at one time or another, which is understandable. However, some people cross the line into a scary world where it doesn't become healthy or funny anymore.


There's a Myspace page that deems itself as an "Ashlee Simpson Haters" site. I've known about it for a few months, mainly because it's sponsored by Pete Wentz's ex-girlfriend. It started out as just being something funny and teenie-ish that I could laugh at, but it's seriously getting disturbing. Please tell me that I'm not the only one who finds this disgusting:

Enter At Your Own Risk


This of course begs the question - how far will some people go to hurt someone else, especially someone they don't even know? Why would someone give a person that much of their time if they can't stand them? How far will you go to get revenge on an ex, ect?


Harassment is a scary, scary thing.

american_beauty - February 22, 2008 08:23 PM (GMT)
Uhh... I was a bully in highschool. It's my senior year now, and I've given up this bullshit. Back then, I thought I really hated that person I bullied (my classmate) even though I didn't even know her. She was just different and had a huge problem in social adaptaion. To be honest she still hasn't quite adapted, but anyway, we tolerate her now. I'm pretty ashamed of my behaviour, I even had some problems at school on account of that. Oh man... I remember when I had to look into her mother's eyes, I knew she knew it was me... bad feeling. But the worst thing was that I didn't REALLY have a reason to bully that girl. I guess I wanted to make myself feel better by doing all those horrible and mean things to her. Moreover, I wasn't alone, I persecuted her with my best friend. Once she was gone (my friend, she failed the whole school year), the bullying was gone. And god... we planned all the stuff we'd do to her at school and after school. We were very close to cross the line - commit a serious crime... Now I just dislike my 'victim', but sometimes I can be nice to her. She definitely isn't a kind of person I'd ever befriend, she's a liar, which has been proven to the whole class many times.

The conclusion is that people that hate others without knowing them have low self-esteem. It's basically their mental problem... By harassing other person they try to prove their strength and courage, which in fact are fake. Another thing is that this kind of people work in a group, alone they're as vulnerable and scared as the victim.

That's my story, I hope I kept it within the topic.

heavymetalhippy01cg - February 22, 2008 08:30 PM (GMT)
Im bothered that its his ex girlfriend...its a bit too personal and erm...unhealthy for her i think. I dont think this is gonna help her move on. All the pics with Ashlee's face scratched out...kinda worries me...it makes me think, she might go off her nut one day and actually harm Ashlee Simpson...i dont really like ashlee simpson but...erm...i dont really like pop singers anyway.
I think right now her self esteem will be very low and would probably be feeling angry that erm...he obviously picked ashlee simpson over her.

Sweet Clementine - February 25, 2008 06:22 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (heavymetalhippy01cg @ Feb 22 2008, 03:30 PM)
Im bothered that its his ex girlfriend...its a bit too personal and erm...unhealthy for her i think. I dont think this is gonna help her move on. All the pics with Ashlee's face scratched out...kinda worries me...it makes me think, she might go off her nut one day and actually harm Ashlee Simpson...i dont really like ashlee simpson but...erm...i dont really like pop singers anyway.
I think right now her self esteem will be very low and would probably be feeling angry that erm...he obviously picked ashlee simpson over her.

I agree, Cat. This kind of shit is what you expect out of 12-year-olds, not 20-somethings.

And Agnes, that's...wow. Confession time! I only bullied people who started it with me first. It was like a game almost. I had this "Okay, if you're going to treat me like shit, then I'm going to do the same" attitide. It's karma.

heavymetalhippy01cg - February 25, 2008 08:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sweet Clementine @ Feb 25 2008, 06:22 PM)
QUOTE (heavymetalhippy01cg @ Feb 22 2008, 03:30 PM)
Im bothered that its his ex girlfriend...its a bit too personal and erm...unhealthy for her i think. I dont think this is gonna help her move on. All the pics with Ashlee's face scratched out...kinda worries me...it makes me think, she might go off her nut one day and actually harm Ashlee Simpson...i dont really like ashlee simpson but...erm...i dont really like pop singers anyway.
I think right now her self esteem will be very low and would probably be feeling angry that erm...he obviously picked ashlee simpson over her.

I agree, Cat. This kind of shit is what you expect out of 12-year-olds, not 20-somethings.

And Agnes, that's...wow. Confession time! I only bullied people who started it with me first. It was like a game almost. I had this "Okay, if you're going to treat me like shit, then I'm going to do the same" attitide. It's karma.

I never bullied people but i let someone get teased by someone else coz that person did something to someone else...in hindsight, i would've said something.

murder - March 2, 2008 12:02 AM (GMT)
I got bullied. Not by all my classmates, but by 2 "friends". I was really good friends with one of them (let's call her 1) when I was 12-13, but then another girl (girl 2) started to come with us and both of them became "bestest friends". Also, they were starting to be "cool chicks" and I was still a girl. I soon became the boring, lame and ugly friend for them I guess.
The worst memory, or one of the worst, was one day when we had a new class and I remember both of them getting into the classroom and saving one place for each other...and nothin for me. I then sat in another place next to people I barely knew. I noticed my two "friends" where laughing at me and they sent me a note...I opened it and it was a drawing of myself with arrows and stupid comments like "no boobs" and that stupid stuff. :lol:
Also, our class went to a trip with another class and it was the same again...no place for me in the bus, no good place for me in the room...one night my friend "1" started to yell at me and call me stupid things just because I was charging my new cellphone and it had to stay all night like that because otherwise it would be broken. I couldn't stand it and cried a lot. I called my parents and they helped me a lot, but there were other girls in the room that also helped me...which are my actual friends now. A few weeks later they made me notice that those 2 girls weren't worth my time. But you know, it was one of those friendships that kind of "close" your eyes and you forget about your own existance...you're like your friends shadow.
Still, things have changed a lot. There was a guy who loved my two friends and ignored me...1 year later this guy would be my boyfriend for 1 year. A few months ago (now I'm almost 18) both of them apologized, one of them was even crying...now I have a very good relationship to her and a polite relationship with "girl 1". And I have lots of friends now. And more boobs than both girls :lol:

But yeah, I still have lots of complexes that I'll never get rid off...just because of being bullied, which sucks.

sanitarium180 - March 2, 2008 12:37 AM (GMT)
Boring, lame and ugly? I doubt it, they probably felt insecure because you were the total opposite of all three of those



and as for that site, I really don't see how you can hate someone that you don't know so much that you put in so much time and effort just to show that hate.. fools

Donut - March 2, 2008 12:22 PM (GMT)
murder (sorry don't know your real name..) I was in same kind of situtation like you were.. I was also very good friends with 2 girls and at the age of 11-12 they just started to ignore me and my friend and laughed to us behind our backs. But luckily I wasn't alone like you were. And at one point we just felt like those two girls turned everyone in our class to hate us. But some time ago I asked that from my friend (we were in the same class but not very good friends then) and she said she didn't hate us but still I feel like almost everyone did.

I actually have never thought that they bullied me.. I just have thought that they started to ignore me and I know they thought that I was ugly, stupid and everything else negative. Well, maybe you can call that bullying.. I just don't like that word :lol:

And not so long ago I actually met one of those girls who "bullied" me and she was like so happy to see me! We were best friends many years when we were children and she acted like she hadn't done anything to me.. I just wanted to punch her in the face and shout at her that doesn't she realise what she did to me then. She and her friend are the main reasons why I have hate(d) myself (esp. my looks).. The 3 years after the bullying were just terrible for me! But now things are much better :D

sorry my English sucks.. :blush:

laura_stef - March 2, 2008 01:37 PM (GMT)
well... i've been bullied when i was little by the kids on my block because i was different... i wouldn't cuss, i was polite & i never picked on people and wasn't skinny as a bone.... and i refused to be like them... so they thought i was weak... i remember getting into fights when i was little (i never started them)... and when i won a fight, these cowards would call on their parents "to tell on me" whereas i would always solve my problems on my own... i pity them now... they're still stuck in that crummy neighbourhood at the edge of that small town, i'm in the centre of the capital city, studying at one of the best high schools in the country and i have a good chance at entering the romanian secret/information services...


as far as bullying somebody, i've never done it... i may not have always been the nicest person to everybody... but all the mean things i've said to anybody were well deserved


the only thing i regret is not stepping up and deffending a girl at school in 8th grade... she wasn't smart at all, but she tried her best to study, she wasn't pretty at all and smelled funny, but she was one of the kindest and nicest girl i've ever met... and i regret not being courageous enough to deffend her one day when things got a bit out of control...

murder - March 2, 2008 05:28 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (sanitarium180 @ Mar 1 2008, 04:37 PM)
Boring, lame and ugly? I doubt it, they probably felt insecure because you were the total opposite of all three of those



and as for that site, I really don't see how you can hate someone that you don't know so much that you put in so much time and effort just to show that hate.. fools

thx mate, I really appreciate that :)
As for the site, I forgot to comment, I'm dumb. But yeah I agree with you, and I have to add that if that girl takes the time to build a site and "wastes" her time with that, maybe it's because she's jealous, which is quite obvious.

@Donut: to me it was kind of the same. My complexes (especially for my looks) and my nerves when it comes to speaking in front of a class come from that relationship...at that time it was worse and I went through a depression for 2 years or so, when I felt really alone. maybe that's one reason why I love my actual friends so much. And btw my name is Sofi(a).

@laura: There's a girl like that in my grade. Well, she is not too pretty, she dresses in a very weird way and smells weird as well. She makes "jokes" that are not funny at all, but she's clever (or at least she has very good marks). Fortunately there's no harassment towards her. Sometimes people make comments or so when she's not around, and I have to admit I have said a few times that I don't like to sit next to her because she really smells bad :blush: Anyways I'm always nice to her and do not discriminate her.
Also, there was this guy in my class 4 years ago who was really stupid and got bullied. I didn't like him and he knew that, but whenever he got bullied, I told the other people to stop because I kinda knew what consecuences it leaves in your mind forever.

laura_stef - March 2, 2008 08:03 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (murder @ Mar 2 2008, 07:28 PM)
because I kinda knew what consecuences it leaves in your mind forever.

not quite forever... i was bullied a lot when i was little, but ever since i moved from that horrid place, i have slowly started to trust people more & to have more confidence in my own strenghts and in my appearence... it's pretty difficult especially because i'm shy... but i try to put myself in tough situations so that if i get over them succesfully my confidence will boost a little... and i also hope i won't be shy anymore... it is true bullying leaves a mark on your character, but only you can overcome it's effects... you can choose not to be scarred for life...




on another note, my opinion is that bullies are cowards that are so afraid of people finding out that they're cowards that they act in a cruel way towards the those that can't defend themselves just to look as though they're great and fearless....


if someone's bullying you chances are they're more screwed up than you are...

Sweet Clementine - March 10, 2008 03:52 PM (GMT)
I've come to learn that best friends can turn into your worst enemies faster than anyone else, because they know things about you that no one else does. Someone who used to be my best friend nearly destroyed me in High School by turning all of my other friends against me. It wasn't one-sided, though - I bullied him, too. We were both really shitty to each other, and I regret a lot of it.

Venomous Vixxxen - March 10, 2008 09:30 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sweet Clementine @ Mar 10 2008, 07:52 AM)
I've come to learn that best friends can turn into your worst enemies faster than anyone else, because they know things about you that no one else does. Someone who used to be my best friend nearly destroyed me in High School by turning all of my other friends against me. It wasn't one-sided, though - I bullied him, too. We were both really shitty to each other, and I regret a lot of it.

i've had that problem too. i also had my worst enimey turn into a good friend when i was back in high school. its kind of cool how it worked out though. i like it when the impossible becomes possible.

Sweet Clementine - March 11, 2008 02:58 PM (GMT)
Life is weird like that. Some people that I thought I'd never be friends with wound up being some of my best friends.

Poppy-Elsker-Lars - March 12, 2008 06:16 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sweet Clementine @ Mar 11 2008, 06:58 AM)
Life is weird like that. Some people that I thought I'd never be friends with wound up being some of my best friends.

Wow i so agree with you :)
In early September i started Sixth Form which in England means no more uniforms, more freedom and less classes. Any my best of best friends had gotten a boyfriend a few months previously and i had no problem with it because he was my friend too. When we started school again after the summer holidays it changed completely, firstly she would ignore me almost every second, and then when i'd be chatting away about something she'd start frenching her boyfriend right in my face regardless of whether i was done talking or not. But i thought ' meh i may as well deal with it, i don't want her getting the wrong idea yada, yada, yada' but it reached an awful breaking point. After FINALLY having enough of her not remembering i exist i started to talk and chat to other people, people i used to be friends with and were acquaintances before-hand. So then after being ill for a few days and not being in school i sign in to msn to say hi and ask whether i could perchance borrow her Smashing Pumpkins cd as i would be coming into school the next day, and i sign on, and she's cold.
I ask her what's wrong and then she accuses me of "being a bad friend" and "only acknowledging me (her) for only 5minutes a day". She then told me i was just being spiteful because i didn't have a boyfriend and was probably jealous of her smarts, beauty and academia.
Understandably, i was crushed. I cried the whole night and even threw up because i got so worked up, i just cried because it felt so unfair to me. I didn't go in the next day and was honestly depressed and unhappy up until Christmas, and i'd never been depressed in my life before then. I'd make up excuses not to go to school, my work suffered and i felt awful about my self. She has told mutual friends she has apologised more than once when really it was a "sorry babe xxx" message on myspace and then getting her boyfriend to apologise down the phone.

But then i started talking to these two girls i'd never really spoken to before and it all went away, we share humour, music tastes, film tastes and their normal, nice people that make me feel okay about myself. It's amazing how your friends can control your life, huh?

Man that was therapeutic! :blush:

Sweet Clementine - March 13, 2008 04:47 PM (GMT)
It's really hard though when you're in school. It would have been easier for me to move past some people had I not had to have been around them every day.

KANNA - March 19, 2008 06:47 AM (GMT)
I've been treated like shit heavy for the past year or so and the only thing that get's from day to day is knowing one thing : who ever treats you like shit will get it back one day WORSE than they gave it to you! Know who you are and what your made of and what you think and know and let people waste their time trying to get to you. It's hard sometimes but you know you better than anyone else so hold your head up tell them to kiss your ass and go about your life. People that diss on others are just afraid and green with envy. They try hard to make you feel as small as THEY do. Ok I have to finish now. Hot topic for me... :biggrin

Sweet Clementine - March 19, 2008 01:40 PM (GMT)
Exactly. That's what I've learned to do over the years.

Donut - March 20, 2008 09:51 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Sweet Clementine @ Mar 19 2008, 05:40 AM)
Exactly. That's what I've learned to do over the years.

Same here :tu:

KANNA - March 28, 2008 11:28 AM (GMT)
I don't understand all the flaming over this vid

http://youtube.com/watch?v=K63yKgFZHBc


I think it's super funny!! And I love Metallica and the boys and know that James could be a billion things but not emo and thats what makes it funny. Plus some pics are just perfect at certain parts of the song. Why can't some people take a joke? I hate it for the person that spent so much time on this to make someome laugh and then dumbass comes along and calls them names. Lighten up it.s just a vid from someone that I believe to be a big Metallica fan. I love their vids. James takes a bath is great too!! Does this person come here? Just wondering... James shaving his legs..... :tardlol

Life is way to short to be so serious. Really.


I feel like Tacos... :P :tardlol

Sweet Clementine - March 28, 2008 01:26 PM (GMT)
WTF?! Okay, that's just weird :lol:

heavymetalhippy01cg - March 28, 2008 04:21 PM (GMT)
er....well its not very good.

KANNA - March 28, 2008 06:08 PM (GMT)
:mellow: I thought it was a real laugh. But my sense of humor is that of a brick...

heavymetalhippy01cg - March 28, 2008 06:36 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (KANNA @ Mar 28 2008, 06:08 PM)
:mellow: I thought it was a real laugh. But my sense of humor is that of a brick...

ah its ok...its me...problems with my bank account, im just in a mood.

KANNA - March 29, 2008 01:07 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (heavymetalhippy01cg @ Mar 28 2008, 10:36 AM)
QUOTE (KANNA @ Mar 28 2008, 06:08 PM)
:mellow:  I thought it was a real laugh. But my sense of humor is that of a brick...

ah its ok...its me...problems with my bank account, im just in a mood.

I've got problems with mine too. Not enough money in them as I'd like :D




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